With the name "communications", one would think a company using that word as part of their branding, would actually uphold to its definition. Since day one as a customer with Charter Communications of Morristown, TN, we have had nothing but problems with the company. In fact, when they first came to my residence to install their internet service, I had to actually get the computers to recognize the connection. The onsite tech had no clue what to do.
Here we are 10 years later, and still battling this company, now with an issue that has progressed since August of 2007. It was that month we upgraded our service from the 5 meg connection to the 10 meg connection. As with all previous upgrades with Charter, we've always been the unfortunate ones to receive less of what we've asked for - basically a totally different item or just not at all - no change - other than the increase of the the total amount due on their bills.
We knew the speed difference wasn't up to par. But with a busy schedule, some of the big things actually go unnoticed. However, we had recognized that the connection speed upgrade has proven to have shown no speed increase in downloading and uploading files. It was the last week of March, that my wife ventured to their website to check on the available space for uploading a webpage. It caught her eye that our status was listed as a 5 meg connection. However, our printed bills were reflecting a 10 meg connection. Charter had never even updated our account since August of 2007.
So, off to the phones we went. Our first concern was getting the refund due to us - the difference in price from the 5 meg to that of the 10 meg connection. Well, Charter didn't want to hear of it. Their response was "you're on a package deal, thus, you are already getting a discount - so, as long as you got connected, we are not at fault." Okay, what did I miss here? I don't think "stupid" is written on our foreheads. My definition of their reply is "we don't have to gaurantee you any type of service when we are giving you a "package deal." That would be sort of like, "here's a new car for you - just sign here - and don't mind that there's no gear shifter - just cruise at the speed the car will go."
Charter's response then was "we aren't going to refund you that amount of money, - it's not going to happen." The representative (after speaking to 5 of them already during the same call to them), stated he'd put us on an even more discounted service - dropping the 50 bucks of internet charges down to 29.99. I told him that any customer can call back at any day to request a new package deal. Heck, we are told that over and over by Charter phone reps when we call to upgrade our channel listings - "when the year is almost up - call back to get a new sweet deal". Well, the tech swindled his way, and said he put the new package deal into effect. I told him that doesn't resolve our connection problem, one that has been since last August, thus making that 7 months of not getting what we are paying for.
Well, the rep schedules, yet another house visit to discover the problem. Note, that Charter advertises on TV "now hook up to high speed with 4 computers in your home - we'll set you up." My home network consists of 5 computers - 3 game consoles - 2 routers - and Charter's mighty cable modem - which I hooked all together - it's not that hard. We had already performed several speed tests to verify our connection was no where near 10 megs, and just barely reaching 4 megs. In fact, the average is 3.45 Mbps. To test your connection, go to http://internetfrog.com and click on the "speed test" link on the right side.
Charter shows up on Wednesday (two weeks ago from this posting). The tech states "the routers need to come out of play." I responded, "but you advertise your service with the use of routers." To make her happy, I direct connected my laptop (with the wireless disabled) to the cable modem. It was averaging the same rate of speed - 3 megs. She then swapped out the modem with a newer model, stating your current modem can't handle the higher bandwidth. I asked, why didn't you nice folks tell us this when we upgraded so that we could have picked up the newer modem? She had no reply. She ventures outside to the pole. Returns minutes later to report that the splitter on the pole was receiving packet errors - 53 of them. After replaching the splitter, the errors ceased. She then goes to change the splitter inside, but she can't reach it. They carry ladders on their service vehicles, but no step stool?? So, since I stand tall enough to predict the weather, I made the changes per her instructions. I basically replaced the co-ax splitter, and she had me re-arrange the order of connections (tv, phone, modem).
After a reboot of the laptop and cable modem, we try the speed test again. Check it out, there was no improvement, in fact, it got worse. She was then quick to say "looks like a 2nd level tech is needed with a bucket truck to sweep the lines along the road to find the interference." She then said "in tomorrow's morning meeting, I'll relay the issue, and it should be resolved by Friday - if not, call us on Monday.
Ring Ring, hello Charter, it's Monday, and you haven't repaired our connection yet. Like with any call, no matter what history you tell these phone techs, they want you to reboot your PC and power cycle your modem. I told him I'm not doing it. I've already had a tech verify the connection problem doesn't not reside in my home. After yet another few hours on the phone, this time with 3 agents, we were told the work order would be put in progress (which was told to me by the onsite tech would be put into effect Thursday morning), and that we would NOT have to be home.
Knock know, who's there - nobody. Charter shows up two days later leaving a "sorry we missed you" post-it on the door. This was an unscheduled event, so yeah, we probably won't be here because we have a life too. Of course, we call them again. My wife just royally goes off on them. "Where's the communication?? heck your company uses the word in its name." Now, a scheduled visit is planned.
A-las, today, I come home from lunch, and a Charter tech is here with my wife. Talk about lack of communication, it was like a time warp to 2 weeks ago. This tech repeats the very same thing the last one did - need a bucket truck - no errors in home. He does add one thing. "This old modem couldn't handle the new bandwidth, because once we provision a modem to accept a certain bandwidth, it can't be re-provisioned. Sort of like this folks - you are born with a set of fingerprints - thus - that's your mark for life. I was like - you weren't even supposed to be checking our service inside, you'll supposed to be in a bucket truck sweeping the lines. My wife had told him this prior to me telling him. He had no clue about that, no info, not a hint of that project. He was told we simply didn't have any internet whatsover by his superiors. Here's goes that lack of communication again with Charter Communication. And he did something on the pole, making the connection even worse, and he had actually killed the entire connection to the internet. Plus, he went dabbling into my laptop settings thinking it was trying to connect to my wireless router. I had the wireless portion already disabled prior to my going to work this morning. These techs know absolutely nothing.
He gets on his cell, calls the guy with the bucket truck, who happens to be in the neighboring city. He stated that after lunch, the other tech would be in town, and they would check the lines along the road. I asked him to give us a courtesy return visit before close of business today, to give us an update on possible repair time. He said he would, and guess what - he never returned.
I get back home from work, find out they haven't been back - not even a phone call (heck, doesn't everyone carry a cell phone on them?), and I get online with their live chat. After telling the online tech the situation (it's getting ready old having to repeat the story over and over and over - why can't they just read the notes on file), she wants me to power cycle the modem and reboot my PC. I told her no - that procedure has been done twice in two weeks by a Charter tech, a few times via on-the-phone techs, not going to do it again for you. There's only one thing you can do - I told her - , and that's to call my Morristown office (since the numbers are hidden from the general public), and find out the update on the line sweep which is supposed to be in progress at this minute. Online tech says there's nothing in the notes. I replied asking her to just make the simple call - it's not that hard. She tells me to call the supervisor on site. I was like - let me try millions of phone number combinations to see if I can figure out his number. Duhh - why aren't you doing it, you are the tech agent, we are the customer. The lady apologizes, says she knows how we feel. No she doesn't - because it's not happening to her - she not getting cheated out of an extra 40 bucks a month - and she isn't experiencing random connections that don't even peak at their lowest package offerred.
Here's a question for all of you Charter customers. Are you getting the bandwidth you are paying for? Or, are you, as well, being cheated out of your money, because Charter doesn't think you are smart enough to verify the actual connection speed? I mentioned it earlier, and I'll do it again. Go to this address: http://www.theinternetfrog.com and click on the bandwidth speed tester on the right. Give it a few moments, and your down speed and up speed will be shown on a graph of other types of net connections. Better yet, if you live in Morristown, TN, use the competitor's speed tester - Morristown Utility Company - www.musfiber.net. Hover your mouse over the word "internet" at the top left, and click on "speed test." It's the same graph as shown on the internetfrog website.
If you are paying for a 5 meg connection, and only average in the range of 3 megs, you aren't getting your money's worth. If you are paying for a 10 meg connection, and not hitting in the high 8's or 9, you are being cheated out of your money too. Using the speed testers via being connected through my routers and just a straigt connection from one PC to the cable modem, our results are close to the same, (but most of the time, the straight connection to the cable modem is even slower).
So, how many more months, Charter Communications, do you need to rectify our problem. When will you all actually communicate correctly with one another so that you put the proper work order in effect to repair our service? If Fibernet would work with a home network, we'll schedule an appointment for you to come pick up your modem - just hope you don't run into a "sorry we missed you, but we aren't home - please call to reschedule an appointment with us" note. Fibernet only offers a connection that works with only one computer, and there's no modem involved. Sounds like an ISDN type connection, but with it supporting a home network, we are currently stuck with Charter. Satellite is way too slow to even tolerate.
This will probably boil down to the Better Business Bureau giving Charter a call. Yeap, I filed a complaint with them that should put enough spark in them to wipe out the lack of common sense in their minds, and get our problem resolved. By no means am I degrading Charter Communications. They have built this reputation on their own, with each of our tech calls to them, and online chats as paper trails. Oh yeah, their double work orders to do the same job add to the collection as well. How about it Charter, making another work order to come back and do what you've done twice in the past two weeks, just to realize once again that you need to get in your bucket truck to sweep our lines to narrow down the bandwidth drop off point???
Christopher (Digital9x).
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** Update **
Today, while my honey and I were out running some errands, I decided to drop by Charter's main office here in Morristown, TN. I figured I'd get the run-around, since the main teller inside is a royal pain in the butt to deal with. Luckily, as I was moving forward in the line, another teller showed up at the 2nd customer service window.
I went over to her, explained the entire ordeal, and asked for two things. First, I wanted a refund for the difference between the 10 meg service and the 5 meg service, starting from August 2007 to present. Secondly, I told her that I wanted my internet bandwidth issue solved before the close of business tonight.
She picked up a walkie talkie, and returned moments later, telling me technicians will be on-site at my residence after 2:30 pm. It was 1:15pm at that moment. The lady also stated that it was incorrect for the phone tech to state Charter wouldn't refund the money due. She made it clear that she would get it worked out.
I left, we finished out around-the-town stuff, and back at the house we were - right around 2:20 pm. Thirty minutes later, the door bell rang, and there stood 2 technicians, and two bucket trucks in my drive way. These guys knew their stuff. Finally, a Charter tech that can talk on my level - that's computer-geek talk terms. After explaining the issue (yet another time), they were quick to connect a device to the modem. Errors were found. They went out to the pole, replaced some gadgets, returned, and still found errors with the modem. They called in a 3rd guy that was close by. He was carrying test equipment they needed. He shows up, the test is done, and it's confirmed, there's a problem.
We ran another speed test, this time using this address: http://speedtest.chartertn.net. This test site is located in Kingsport, TN, which is about 40 minutes from us. The speed test revealed that we weren't getting any where close to 10 megs, the range was in the 3 meg connection. BTW, this test site is the preferred site to use for those of you in the Morristown, Knoxville, Kingsport area. There are only 2 hops to pass through. Hops are servers or intersection points it takes for your computer to reach out to the internet, and/or a particular website. You can do this to trace the path from your computer to any particular website:
1. Click Start (or the Orb in Vista).
2. Select Run
3. Type in CMD
4. Click OK
5. In the black DOS window, type in this command:
tracert nameofwebsite.ext
Example: tracert speedtest.chartertn.net
Example: tracert yahoo.com
6. Press Enter after typing in the command.
7. The results you see are the number of hops it takes for you to reach that destination.
8. The fewer the hops, the faster your connection is to that site or location.
From my residence, there are only 3 hops.
1- the router
2- Charter's main office. 172.21.76.97
3- kingsport bandwidth testing site 24.158.96.121
They scratched their heads, thought about it, at the same time, enjoying my Jenna Jameson posters and other collections in my cave. They concluded that the problem has to now be between the pole and the house. So, they dropped a new cable line from the pole to my house. Ten minutes later, they performed another test, and there were no errors. I even look at the test machine's screen to confirm that.
Now, these are techs that know their stuff. Charter could have saved a lot of money had they stopped B-S'ing us around on the phone, and sending techs out that didn't go the extra mile to discover the issue. The techs who arrived today actually took the time to trace the issue, found it, and corrected it. Since one tech said he had just recently performed a routine line sweep in the area, he knew the problem wasn't along the road side. Charter now has to cough up just over 40 bucks X 9 months (since they charge a month in advance) worth of refund money.
In summary, always tech your bandwidth speed. Make sure you are getting what you are paying for. Oh yeah, not that I do, but I know some who connect in this manner. If you are connecting your cable modem to your PC via a USB cable, you are losing bandwidth. Install a 10/100 ethernet card in your PC. Heck, most every computer sold today has one pre-installed. It looks like a phone connection port, but is twice the width.
One of the techs confirmed that Charter already has a 150 meg connection. Yeap, that's right - 150 MBPS. That's lightning fast. It's in testing in a discrete location. Current business are subscribing to 50 MBPS connections. The general public is soon to see a 16 meg upgrade bandwidth. Now, that the new line is in place (old one has a splice that was allowing water to come in contact to the main coax, thus causing noise), hopefully if we upgrade, all will be well.
Christopher.
Today, Charter called. I was at work, but my wife was home. Charter stated they received the complaint I sent to the Better Business Bureau. The representative on the phone was extremely cordial - my wife stated.
Charter's home office for our area is located in South Carolina. My initial complaint sent to the BBB was forwarded by them to the correct Charter branch that handed my connection area.
The conversation ended with a refund of $60, as well as, two months of free internet service. It was Charter's way of trying to resolve the issue. This deal was accepted by my wife. As soon as the call ended, my wife phone me to let me know about the event.
It actually paid off to file the complaint. Though the refund didn't match the exact amount we over paid since August 2007, at least a settlement was offered, and it was acceptable.
Charter claimed they didn't know a pre-provisioned modem could not be provisioned for higher bandwidths, until this past January. So, the refund amount was the different from January to April. The free 2-months of internet service was their way of putting icing on the cake.
Those of you facing a similar situation with Charter should do the same thing. Keep a paper trail of service calls, and times/dates you phone Charter to resolve an issue. If it appears you are running in circles, and more than tolerable time has passed by, file your complaint, and let them take over your battle. I'm just glad we have such an organization to file complaints. It's a big stress reliever when you get help from the higher-ups with the power to put pressure on companies that are not providing a service for which you are paying for. High-five's to the Better Business Bureau staff.
Christopher
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